Good one bro!!

It's possible this is an older version of the current white 400 gi. The current white 400 gi has teal belt loops and bias seam on the jacket with orange and yellow panda. There seems to be other white 400 versions, like this one with red loops and panda embroidery. https://rollmore.com/products/inverted-gear-panda-400-bjj-gi-white

Also, the current Old School Gi has a diamond weave jacket skirt and pearl weave upper. It seems this current 400 gi has a pearl weave throughout the jacket. The Old School Gi is also 650 GSM and comes with cotton canvas pants, instead of ripstop.

I'd say they're different, but I don't have either to confirm.

Panda 400

(There are multiple colorways of the 400 and weve carried the previous colorways - this is a new one)

In my experience, pearl weave cotton gi jackets and pants usually shrink about 4-5% in the wingspan, pant length, and body length, and about 2-3% in the body width, sleeve width, and pant width, after about 5 washes in cold water and hang dry. If you wash warm and dry in the dryer on warm, you can get them to shrink 1.5x to 2x those percentages - i.e. a whole size down. I have no experience with cotton-poly blends, but my understanding is they tend to shrink less because of the polyester. If you're on the fence - since you can't return these - I recommend going for the larger size, and worst case, you just wash warm or tumble dry warm to shrink it to size. But! I recommend doing that after the 3rd to 5th wash once the shrinkage stops. I'm right between an A2 and an A3, but I have long monkey arms, so I usually just get an A3 and deal with a little bit of bagginess in the body to make sure the sleeve length isn't too short. A2Ls aren't always available and the sizing isn't standard, so I just go with A3.

those are very specific percentages

I've measured all of my gis from when I first got them, and then after every wash. It only took one gi shrinking too much for me to become obsessive about sizing. I couldn't return it, so I ended up taking the ~$120 loss and just giving it to my sister.

Ah! Forgot to mention, worst worst case scenario, if you go a size up and after trying to shrink your gi with warm water and tumble dry warm, if your sleeve and pants legs are still a little too long, then just take them to get hemmed/tailored at your local tailor. It shouldn't cost more than $30.

Mine shrunk 1-1.5 sizes from just cold wash and hang dry. Friends had same experience.

I got bamboo panda so could be different, but those shrink a crazy amount. They never stop shrinking basically, with cold wash and hang dry.

For heavy items like Gis, the int’l cost is so outrageous lately that we often lose money beyond the shipping rate that we charge customers.. Combined with the lack of recourse for being reimbursed by courier (zero recourse) if a shipment is lost, it ends up being a bit of a gamble. So sometimes when it comes to heavier or more costly items, we disable shipping outside US/CAN. Working on a better solution though - sorry for now, mate!

Happy i stocked up before justin found another way to fk up the supply chain

Hey he might be incompetent but at least he’s handsome!

Pretty sure IG Ripstop is 100% cotton but ill double check in the morning at the office!

I'd say 100% cotton by my experience. Basically zero flex/stretch, even wet.

I'm like 91% sure I'll buy this if the pants are 100% cotton.

Confirmed. 100% cotton too & bottom.